i have a question about peter parker that the movie didn’t answer: did tony have him sign the accords?
did tony get peter, legally a minor, to sign the un accords? it would have been without the knowledge or consent of his guardian, obviously. did he get peter to sign to try and protect him, since the internet has already found spiderman? okay, legit. but what happens if the government feels justified in either a.) attempting to make use of peter’s abilities and deploying him on missions or b.) deciding that an enhanced minor is a liability and transferring him to protective custody? what happens then?
i ask this, but honestly, the way peter just goes home to queens indicates to me that peter didn’t sign shit. it indicates to me that tony made a call– that he decided peter’s privacy and safety and continued anonymity was more important than getting peter to sign on the dotted line. furthermore, it indicates that rhodey, vision, and the rest of the pro-accords team have also agreed to keep peter’s identity and status out of their mouths in public. i mean, did they all just forget he was there? did they ever have a conversation like “hey tony, what happened to the kid in the pajamas, ross seems pretty upset about us not bringing him back” and tony was like “shut the fuck up, nobody’s saying nothing about that kid”???? and they were all like, “okay, no prob, let him roam free, kid’s got a good heart and he’s fighting for the little guy.” i mean, ?????? is that not essentially???? steve’s argument???? about autonomy??????
i’m not saying tony or steve is wrong or right. what i am saying is, while peter’s presence in the airport fight was pretty damn amazing, the more i think about it, the more i realize his story opens a massive fucking plot chasm as far as the “everybody must sign” argument goes. like, nobody in the accords admin chain is gonna get security cam footage from the airport and be like “hey, stark, who the fuck is this kid you drove to the fight?”
In MCU, The Sokovia Accords is not about all superheroes registering their identities. The document is just for the current Avengers team to sign saying they will answer to someone (like kinda how they were doing with SHIELD before that fell) because in the UN eyes, they lack responsibility. Peter is not an Avenger’s member, nor was he a responsible party member in any of the tragic deaths that the Avengers are being held responsible for by the UN. Tony just borrowed him for help to try and bring in Steve’s team. But Peter would not have to sign since it’s not about/doesn’t include him.
This is what had to be signed and by whom.
Granted, we have no idea if this document is still functioning or was trashed since only three of the Avenger’s members were left at the end of the movie and one of them is down (Rhodey). There is literally no Avenger’s anymore so there’s no point to it anymore. Yet, those that did not sign that were supposed to (to accept responsibility) will still be considered criminals for their actions.
This is how I understand it since they never mention superhero registration. Hope I helped!
i appreciate this answer, thank you, but it raises another question:
so, why is scott lang in jail?
if the sokovia accords are explicitly only for the named avengers, why is scott lang in jail?
i suppose you can argue that it’s his participation in the airport fight: destruction of property, aiding wanted fugitives, aggravated assault. but those would be civilian crimes, and since he is in no way a recognized avenger, nor is he named in the accords, he remains a civilian. so why is he being held with the other violators of the accords in a superhero supermax without a lawyer or trial?
you don’t have to answer this, of course, but the movie should. who are the accords really for? and are we still, post-movie, supposed to see the accords as a good solution for lack of oversight, when their enforcement plays out like the patriot act? (let me be clear: i don’t blame tony for this. he didn’t write the damn accords. i came out of the movie feeling like tony was tricked, lied to, by the government. i kept waiting for him or someone to clearly articulate that. his exchange with clint in supermax was the closest it came.)
natasha killed for the red room because she’d been conditioned, controlled, coerced through pain and fear and brainwashing. bruce has killed people as the hulk, in a kind of fugue state where an alternative side of his consciousness takes over and he’s not in direct control. clint killed people under the control of loki. wanda helped ultron and many died. but of all these people, only bucky is guilty??? a heroic pow that we’ve seen be electrocuted and slapped and frozen and medically tortured and beaten savagely? the guy who broke his programming to save a life– his first independent act in 70 years? the dude we saw trying to live a life of peace and quiet where he was harming nobody??? him?
there is not a side-eye that is Side enough for you, writers; i’d have to have lateral vision like a fucking horse
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