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thecaptainoutoftime asked:
What did you think of Terminator: Dark Fate?
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Like the post T2 movies, it’s uneven. I think overall though, it gets closer to the source material than any of the other ones. 

The Sarah Connor stuff works pretty well and I’m damn glad to see Linda Hamilton again, Emilia Clarke just wasn’t….wasn’t it. The T-X Rev-9 has some fun humour associated with it, but the damn half empty Endo skull inside of it is still weird. The trailers telegraphed who we’d meet in the cabin but it’s still the right call to let Schwarzenegger sit out the first half of the movie.

I’m gonna also dovetail for a second that the uncanny valley in the prologue was pretty damn good, each movie is inching closer and closer to uncanny Arnold. The back muscles looked a bit weird tho, or the arms I’m not sure. I still don’t think they got the proportions for that right (or whatever ripped actor they got to mocap him).

Oh and that leaker a few months ago that gave us the prologue was spot on, I don’t remember if he had the rest but he had that.  

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I think, compared to the other post T2 movies, there isn’t a single bad casting note (I never really dug Nick Stahl as Connor in T3, or John Connor in Genisys (to say nothing of Matt Smith) and I’m not settled on Helena Bonham Carter avatar). I really liked Grace, and Dani if it took a while for the reveal of her role to finally land. 

The cinematography itself is also good, better than Genisys or T3. I like the idea of a completely new iteration of Skynet, Legion, even if it does sound ripped from a comic a different comic book (see also Time Travel Superhero Landings). It might have tried too much with the action set pieces.

This is probably where this series of movies should end, really.

I’ll probably watch it again when it gets out digitally and that’s as good a praise as i can give it. The uneven parts make it hard to really place it. Better than Genisys, absolutely. I’ll say that I liked it better than Season 1 of Sarah Connor Chronicles too.  My impression as it stands right now is better than T3 but not quite as good as salvation as a movie, but in the spirit of the original two it gets it right. 

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Oh and I loved seeing the classic chrome HKs, even if it was for a moment.

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thecaptainoutoftime asked:
What did you think of Terminator: Dark Fate?

Like the post T2 movies, it’s uneven. I think overall though, it gets closer to the source material than any of the other ones. 

The Sarah Connor stuff works pretty well and I’m damn glad to see Linda Hamilton again, Emilia Clarke just wasn’t….wasn’t it. The T-X Rev-9 has some fun humour associated with it, but the damn half empty Endo skull inside of it is still weird. The trailers telegraphed who we’d meet in the cabin but it’s still the right call to let Schwarzenegger sit out the first half of the movie.

I’m gonna also dovetail for a second that the uncanny valley in the prologue was pretty damn good, each movie is inching closer and closer to uncanny Arnold. The back muscles looked a bit weird tho, or the arms I’m not sure. I still don’t think they got the proportions for that right (or whatever ripped actor they got to mocap him).

Oh and that leaker a few months ago that gave us the prologue was spot on, I don’t remember if he had the rest but he had that.  

back to more thoughts

I think, compared to the other post T2 movies, there isn’t a single bad casting note (I never really dug Nick Stahl as Connor in T3, or John Connor in Genisys (to say nothing of Matt Smith) and I’m not settled on Helena Bonham Carter avatar). I really liked Grace, and Dani if it took a while for the reveal of her role to finally land. 

The cinematography itself is also good, better than Genisys or T3. I like the idea of a completely new iteration of Skynet, Legion, even if it does sound ripped from a comic a different comic book (see also Time Travel Superhero Landings). It might have tried too much with the action set pieces.

This is probably where this series of movies should end, really.

I’ll probably watch it again when it gets out digitally and that’s as good a praise as i can give it. The uneven parts make it hard to really place it. Better than Genisys, absolutely. I’ll say that I liked it better than Season 1 of Sarah Connor Chronicles too.  My impression as it stands right now is better than T3 but not quite as good as salvation as a movie, but in the spirit of the original two it gets it right. 

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So is there time travel going in in this story? Like Sulu is really old and Picard is commanding The Excelsior? Alternate Timeline?

Yeah. Kirk is prevented from saving the Federation President in Star Trek VI, which leads to a war with the Klingons, a War the Federation loses. It’s sometime in the TNG era where Picard leads a resistance faction on occupied Earth, Worf is Governor, and Excelsior - still under Sulu’s command - has turned into the legend of the Silver Ghost, nipping at the Empire’s heels. It gets really convoluted in the final issues but yes it does also involve trying to fix the timeline.

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thecaptainoutoftime replied to your photoset “Colonel West: Starfleet officer, officially working in Fleet…”
I know they hadn’t come up with it yet, but perhaps Colonel West was Section 31? In fact Section 31 could have been behind the whole plot to keep the Cold War going now that I think about it.

I don’t like to ascribe every shady thing to Section 31, but in this case I think it’s more a case that it started legitimately outside the org. There’s a possibility that when they learned of it they pushed nudged it along. But also if they saw the Federation security was threatened by these warmonger’s actions they might have tried to pump the breaks on it (How did Sulu, who had no involvement in the Kithomer Conference, know where it would be? Excelsior was the one cataloguing gaseous anomalies but Enterprise still had the equipment during their escort mission, a component that would prove vital to destroying Chang’s Bird of Prey? ). Or maybe they just wanted to weed out the bad elements within Starfleet and this was the most convoluted way to do it. 

thecaptainoutoftimeThirty One was an interesting concept until it was done to death and every single bad action was retconned to themI know humans are supposed to have been evolved into something better for Star Trekbut we've seen plenty  of evidence that they can be corruptedwithout thirty one's helpkeep them in the shadows - never seen and a light touch